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0) Get reservation number for campsite to Dave, since he wants to go up there early.

1) Find a moderate mountain to climb while in New Hamster. Dave had recommended a hike that he's planning on, but when I asked him "can I decide later if I'm going on that, I sort of hurt my leg a bit", he warned me away from that hike. It is the second-highest mountain in the state. Sigh. Damnit, I exercise every day for 9 months, and then I can't tag along with Dave's outing. I hate my body today. Fortunately, I found a web site that lists the mountains in the state, sorted by elevation, and lists the trails on each, so maybe I can find just the right hike. I was hoping that Jill, the one who was all eager to go to the mountains and hike some elevation, would organize this, but she's waffling on even going because of the politics of who's staying in what tent. Should ask Joe what the elevation was on that hike we did a couple of years ago, so I know what elevation I've done successfully before.

2) Deal with tent politics. Find out if Rich can borrow a huge tent, big enough for 5, from his family. Otherwise, find out if marmota has a tent big enough for all the guys in working order, or if he has to get the one that's at our house to REI to be fixed. Maybe a group outing to REI?

3) Possibly get stuff for day-hike at REI? I do not want to wear a full-size backpack if I can get away with it. If I can pack whatever I need for a day-hike into the pockets of my camelback, great; otheriwse I want to get a lumbar pack in addition. What do I need: water, food, band-aids, compass, sunscreen, bug spray... Hmm, food might get squished in the camelback. Better get a lumbar pack. Need to root around and see if I can locate the bug spray, otherwise pick up some of that at REI too. Perhaps some lightweight long pants as well, for protection against bugs while still staying cool?

4) Laundry. All shorts, and the comfortable cotton bra-like thing, are believed to be Missing In Hamper.

5) Food. Hinges on finding out, for sure, if Jill is going; some of the known attendees are avid carnivores, so they wouldn't appreciate having things slanted to please a vegetarian if there isn't a reason. Sweetie and I should just buy a bunch of food and then hit the others up for a donation later; it's too complex to split up the food-buying-- although, Jill might want to buy some of her own food, which would simplify things for me. (Gah, and to think that I used to cook entirely vegetarian.) Good thing we are cooking for others; left to ourselves, we'd be tempted to cook everything in bacon fat, not the healthiest thing; this would be kind of ironic, given the composition of the group.

6) Packing list.

7) Communicate on: when are we picking up marmota; when and where (and if) we are picking up Jill.

I think that's it. Car camping is basically as simple as "pull out all your gear, stuff into the back of the station wagon, drive up." Almost.

Date: 2003-07-09 02:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] perspicuity.livejournal.com
contact ems or rei about renting a tent? it is what they do after all, right?

Date: 2003-07-09 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chhotii.livejournal.com
OK, I'll ask about that. We are trying to stay cheap, though.

BTW, do you remember that hike we did in 2000? What mountain/trail was that? That's probably the most severe hike I've done in years, and I'm trying to get a sense for what is well within my grasp. I do recall that it was about 8 or 9 miles, but I don't remember how many feet gained in elevation. (If you don't remember the outing specifically, just start naming names... maybe I'll recognise the name.)

Date: 2003-07-09 02:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] perspicuity.livejournal.com
cheap is good. tent politics tricky. rent/borrow more smaller tents?

what kind of repair is needed to marmota's tent?

that old hike: the mountain was monadnock, the vertical rise was 2670 feet (the mountain is 3165), the round trip was 9 miles and something like 7-8 hours i think (can't remember the time part well, i usually hike faster than most guides estimates, but then take time for sights and stuff, so...) it was also pretty hot, and we used all the water; so that was kinda brutal too.

the exact hike is described in "50 more hikes in new hampshire" on page 65. the trail is called "Pumpelly", and is sometimes called "the lake [house] trail". it's the back side of the park where most people park, and is more of a rolling trail, than a brute assault up the so called stairs that comprise the majorly hiked side. i like it because of the lack of people during peak season (and the parking :> it's free).

Date: 2003-07-09 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tb
I have a "four person" Eureka tent I used to use as luxury accomodations at Pennsic. I'm willing to lend it so long as someone with a clue about tents will take responsibility for it (as in, don't store food in it or set it on fire). I haven't used it in some time (frotz and I have switched over to a smaller one for our camping trips) so I don't know what shape it's in, but it should be OK. It's definitely for car-camping; you wouldn't want to hike anywhere with it, if that makes a difference. Let me know and I'll drag it out and give it a once-over. We could probably even drop it off at Pondscumme tomorrow evening.

Date: 2003-07-09 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frotz.livejournal.com
If you'll be in the White Mountains (and it sounds like you will be), find a copy of the AMC's White Mountain Guide. It rocks. I can loan you a copy if you like.

Yeah! Bacon fat!

I don't know how to get in touch with Marmota these days, but if you do, please ask him to tell me ASAP if he still wants the old sailcloth for his dome-tent project. I think he was hoping to have built it for this trip, but that doesn't seem very likely at this point...

Renting

Date: 2003-07-09 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deguspice.livejournal.com
You can rent a 6 person tent from REI for the weekend (pickup Friday, return Monday) for something like $30 if you're a member. (I don't know if it's still true, but they used to have a policy that if after renting you decide you want to buy a tent from REI, they'll deduct the rental fee from the price).

REI rental info (http://www.rei.com/stores/rentals.html#massachusetts)

I haven't looked into it, but the website says they also rent backpacks.

Date: 2003-07-10 03:38 am (UTC)

Date: 2003-07-10 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chhotii.livejournal.com
"Four person"? In quotes?

Jill likes the idea of 2 tents, one for guys and one for gals. Maybe I'll sneak off to the guys' tent if she's getting on my nerves, but only if that won't be too cramped. So, maybe the 4-person tent will help... Hmmm...

Date: 2003-07-10 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chhotii.livejournal.com
He wasn't trying to build it for this trip, so no oops there. It's a longer-term project. AFAIK, he does still want the sailcloth. Thanks!

Date: 2003-07-10 09:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chhotii.livejournal.com
Wow, that was Monadnock, huh? Monadnock has such a reputation for being overrun on summer weekends, but I don't remember a soul up there (well, there might have been a couple of other hikers). And after some web research, I'm starting to not take the free parking for granted. So, I'd recommend that trail, if anyone is looking for a good stiff day of hiking.

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